#archlinux32 | Logs for 2018-06-26

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[08:14:04] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
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[08:34:42] <vboxler> Hello, i don' t can install abiword-gtk2 and abiword-svn
[08:34:57] <vboxler> i use trizen AUR
[08:35:56] <vboxler> https://aur.archlinux.org
[08:35:57] <phrik> Title:AUR (en) - abiword-gtk2 (at aur.archlinux.org)
[08:36:13] <vboxler> https://aur.archlinux.org
[08:36:13] <phrik> Title:AUR (en) - abiword-svn (at aur.archlinux.org)
[08:37:10] <vboxler> @abauman did you can install abiword-gtk2 or abiword-svn to use abiword without flickering?
[08:37:53] <vboxler> @abaumm your netbook have a intel GPU?
[08:41:39] <deep42thought> vboxler: what's the error when you try installing abiword-*
[08:44:58] <vboxler> hello, i get an error, but i don't remember
[08:45:18] <vboxler> and in this time i don't have archlinux
[08:45:50] <deep42thought> ok, next time you're on that box, copy the error somewhere and tell us, so we can actually help you :-)
[08:45:52] <vboxler> can i use trizen with archlinux32?
[08:46:08] <deep42thought> I have never used it before, but I don't see, why it should not work
[08:46:23] <vboxler> https://aur.archlinux.org
[08:46:24] <phrik> Title:AUR (en) - trizen (at aur.archlinux.org)
[08:46:25] <deep42thought> does it give you the possibility to edit the PKGBUILD before building?
[08:47:17] <vboxler> yes, i can change the pkbuild if i use trizen
[08:47:27] <deep42thought> ok, then there should be no problem
[08:47:35] <vboxler> but i didn't have change anything
[08:47:41] <deep42thought> you may need to add "i686" to the arch=() array in the pkgbuild before building, though
[08:48:51] <vboxler> https://aur.archlinux.org
[08:48:51] <phrik> Title:PKGBUILD - aur.git - AUR Package Repositories (at aur.archlinux.org)
[08:49:10] <deep42thought> it's there already
[08:50:18] <vboxler> did you can change for a working PKBUILD with archlinux32 for me and posting to pastebin?
[08:50:41] <deep42thought> I can try, gimme a minute
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[09:01:01] <deep42thought> hah - they know about the problems: https://aur.archlinux.org
[09:01:01] <phrik> Title:AUR (en) - abiword-svn (at aur.archlinux.org)
[09:19:57] <vboxler> deep42thought: did you have a solution?
[09:20:17] <vboxler> i will come back another time, cu
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[09:20:48] <deep42thought> vboxler: not yet, abiword-gtk2 is still compiling
[09:20:58] <deep42thought> for abiword-svn I'd wait for upstream :-)
[09:27:57] <deep42thought> vboxler: abiword-gtk2 builds fine for me
[09:49:44] <deep42thought> vboxler: you can install abiword-gtk2 from my repo if you like (https://arch.eckner.net/archlinuxewe/os/i686/abiword-gtk2-3.0.2-2-i686.pkg.tar.xz)
[10:35:22] <buildmaster> consul is broken (says rechenknecht).
[11:21:13] <deep42thought> hrmm, routing between git.archlinux32.org and the buildmaster is broken ... this breaks quite some things ...
[11:28:37] <buildmaster> consul is broken (says rechenknecht).
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[15:23:11] <afeni> hi, I have a question about devtools
[15:23:19] <deep42thought> afeni: what is it?
[15:23:43] <afeni> I tried to build a package with extra-i686-build, but it failed
[15:24:05] <afeni> there is no pacman-extra-i686.conf
[15:24:18] <deep42thought> you're on x86_64?
[15:24:24] <deep42thought> and have devtools32 installed?
[15:24:28] <afeni> no archlinux32
[15:24:39] <deep42thought> ah, then you're the first to try that :-)
[15:24:43] <afeni> ok
[15:24:56] <deep42thought> we're usually building on x86_64 with devtools32
[15:25:33] <deep42thought> ah, but I see the problem
[15:25:44] <deep42thought> apparently, we only use staging-i686-build
[15:25:54] <deep42thought> thus the missing .conf never was an issue O.o
[15:26:12] <afeni> I tried that too, but then got an error that there is no mirrorlist32
[15:26:23] <afeni> ;)
[15:26:34] <deep42thought> just symlink it to your regular mirrorlist :-)
[15:27:01] <deep42thought> as you can see: you're the first to test devtools on archlinux32 :-D
[15:27:31] <afeni> yes seems so.
[15:28:14] <deep42thought> hmm, probably we should drop the 32 from the mirrorlist on archlinux32 itself ...
[15:28:35] <afeni> do you plan to update the native 32 devtools?
[15:28:44] <deep42thought> then pacman-extra-i686.conf would be identical to pacman-extra.conf
[15:28:48] <deep42thought> yes
[15:28:57] <deep42thought> just let me know what bothers you :-)
[15:29:08] <deep42thought> I'd remove the "32" suffix in /usr/share/devtools/pacman-staging-i686.conf
[15:29:12] <afeni> you mean in pacman-staging-i686.conf
[15:29:19] <afeni> yes
[15:29:21] <deep42thought> and add a /usr/share/devtools/pacman-extra-i686.conf identical to /usr/share/devtools/pacman-extra.conf
[15:29:35] <deep42thought> anything else?
[15:29:49] <afeni> for the moment, no :)
[15:30:30] <deep42thought> we could also drop the multilib stuff, but we don't need to either
[15:30:51] <afeni> true
[15:31:05] <deep42thought> but usually: less changes break less ;-)
[15:31:18] <afeni> also true :)
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[15:45:10] <ubone> hi
[15:45:17] <deep42thought> ubone: hi!
[15:45:48] <ubone> about the homepage
[15:46:16] <ubone> the big pic is kinda in the way
[15:47:26] <deep42thought> we don't have much to show on the first page currently, anyway
[15:47:55] <deep42thought> but feel free to open pull requests at git.archlinux32.org/archlinux32/website if you find something to improve
[15:51:57] <ubone> maybe the 'A simple, lightweight distribution' note but with x86-32 instead of 64
[15:52:53] <ubone> with archlinux32 instead of arch linux probably as well
[15:55:25] <ubone> no really it just needs the pic removed so the relevant information pop up, having to scroll down to read it like a footer is torture
[15:56:13] <afeni> I see you already added the config files, that was fast thanks!
[15:56:23] <ubone> which is line 36 https://git.archlinux32.org
[15:56:25] <phrik> Title:archlinux32/website: Tools for the web frontend - Archlinux32 Gitea (at git.archlinux32.org)
[15:56:33] <deep42thought> yeah, I'm still working on a modified package, though
[15:56:54] <afeni> with symlink mirrolist32 -> mirrorlist ?
[15:57:17] <deep42thought> no, I'd just change "mirrorlist32" to "mirrorlist" in the respective config files
[15:57:27] <afeni> ak ok
[15:57:37] <deep42thought> ubone: would it be ok to move the image down?
[15:57:43] <deep42thought> e.g. to line 51?
[15:59:17] <ubone> it would be better if you really like it
[16:00:21] <afeni> so, now I get this
[16:00:25] <ubone> in this case maybe also make it scale with the window size
[16:00:31] <buildmaster> dirty! girls, my database - so dirty :-(
[16:00:39] <afeni> just a moment ...
[16:01:12] <deep42thought> I have to go in a few minutes, but I'll read the log when I'm back (probably in ~ 6h)
[16:01:26] <afeni> error: pacman: signature from "Tyler Dence (Build Key) <tyzoid@archlinux32.org>" is marginal trust
[16:01:34] <afeni> ok
[16:01:35] <deep42thought> pacman-key --refresh-keys
[16:03:45] <ubone> thx
[16:04:03] <ubone> much better:)
[16:04:06] <deep42thought> :-)
[16:05:07] <afeni> ah works now, thanks
[16:05:40] <afeni> it's a VM not updated for some time.. ;)
[16:07:32] <deep42thought> ok, I have to go now!
[16:08:08] <afeni> bye
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[17:27:55] * buildmaster resumes sanity.
[17:28:00] <buildmaster> octave is broken (says rechenknecht).
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[17:56:54] <elibrokeit> deep42thought, tyzoid: how feasible would it be to keep devtools32 as an extension to devtools? IIRC all we did was drop some symlinks and the pacman.conf
[17:57:49] <tyzoid> elibrokeit: Not sure what exactly you mean... You're asking if it wouldn't be too difficult to make devtools support 32bit compilation again?
[17:57:55] <elibrokeit> Well, makepkg.conf I guess
[17:58:15] <elibrokeit> I know exactly what that takes :)
[17:59:07] <elibrokeit> When i686 was dropped, we literally removed the symlinks to archbuild and removed the i686 specific makepkg.conf
[18:00:01] <elibrokeit> So adding support *should* be as simple as adding a custom mirrorlist and *.conf pointing to other repo hosts
[18:00:47] <tyzoid> Might be nice, but deep42thought's call. I still want to see if we can't get devtools32 working properly on an i686 host, instead of an x86_64 host building for i686
[18:01:51] <elibrokeit> Haven't really looked at the fork changes
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[21:47:39] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[21:48:05] <deep42thought> elibrokeit: in principle, devtools32 _is_ the old devtools
[21:48:23] <deep42thought> however, I inserted some changes, which I thought were useful for us
[21:49:44] <deep42thought> most notably the following: separate cache, different order of repositories
[21:50:10] <deep42thought> ah, and we use a separate mirrorlist :-)
[21:51:03] <deep42thought> elibrokeit: Do I understand you correctly, that you want to have devtools (as is) + devtools32 to be like the old devtools?
[21:52:23] * deep42thought should switch to "we" instead of "I" - he's not the only contributor of changes
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[21:57:07] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[21:57:21] <deep42thought> Good evening, abaumann!
[21:57:40] <abaumann> hi there. back from soccer. :-)
[21:57:52] <deep42thought> who was playing?
[21:58:03] <abaumann> argentina was almost out.
[21:58:10] <abaumann> argentina: nigeria
[21:58:16] <abaumann> croatia: island
[21:58:25] <abaumann> was close.
[21:59:05] <abaumann> the favorites won both 2:1
[22:06:51] <abaumann> mmh: ERROR: Cannot lock ping-to-master - this should not happen.
[22:06:57] <abaumann> still a problem?
[22:09:34] <deep42thought> oh
[22:09:37] <deep42thought> where is this?
[22:09:40] <deep42thought> on your slave?
[22:09:43] <abaumann> yes.
[22:10:08] <deep42thought> pkill ping-to-master
[22:10:15] <deep42thought> should help temporarily
[22:10:24] <abaumann> uh. sounds brutal. :-)
[22:10:40] <deep42thought> nah, ping-to-master is really totally unimportant
[22:10:45] <deep42thought> well
[22:10:49] <deep42thought> not _totally_
[22:10:52] <deep42thought> but quite :-)
[22:11:10] <abaumann> I get loops of git pulls (for the repos) and then ERROR: Cannot lock ping-to-master - this should not happen.
[22:11:29] <abaumann> I think, I just stop the slave.. :-)
[22:12:05] <deep42thought> do you happen to have a mysqld running on your slave?
[22:12:32] <abaumann> huh? no.
[22:12:54] <deep42thought> ok, I'm just checking
[22:12:55] <deep42thought> ...
[22:12:55] <abaumann> mysql never runs on one on machines, if I can help it. ;-)
[22:13:03] <abaumann> *of my
[22:13:11] <deep42thought> :-)
[22:13:14] <abaumann> never mind. t'roow.
[22:13:22] <abaumann> * t'morrow.
[22:13:29] <deep42thought> good n8!
[22:13:39] <abaumann> to you too. cu. :-)
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[22:46:47] <elibrokeit> deep42thought: I was wondering whether devtools and devtools32 could be co-installed, actually. With devtools32 just providing the right symlinks
[22:47:09] <elibrokeit> Unless pacman-extra.conf needs to know whether to use mirrorlist or mirrorlist32
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[23:16:36] <buildmaster> nss is broken (says nlopc46).
[23:24:25] <tyzoid> elibrokeit: That might work pretty well, actually
[23:24:41] <tyzoid> only issue would be an i686 build of devtools
[23:34:36] <elibrokeit> could not run the x86_64 bits either waay :p
[23:34:58] <elibrokeit> not without a 64-bit kernel
[23:35:09] <elibrokeit> the setarch bit would tend to bork
[23:37:21] <tyzoid> Right, but if we were to make devtools32 build upon or depend upon devtools, and only add in the i686 stuff, then we wouldn't be able to run it on i686 machiens
[23:37:24] <tyzoid> machines*
[23:37:42] <tyzoid> I think it might be useful, but not sure if that's an eventual goal, or a non-goal.
[23:37:56] <tyzoid> deep42thought would need to clarify that point
[23:38:53] <elibrokeit> not sure why it would conflict i686 hosts.
[23:39:15] <tyzoid> I may be misunderstanding what you're suggesting.
[23:39:29] <tyzoid> My interpretation of your suggestion is to make devtools32 depend on devtools
[23:39:35] <tyzoid> and only add in the missing functionality to build i686
[23:39:51] <tyzoid> if this is accurate, then devtools32 would not work on i686 hosts
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