#archlinux32 | Logs for 2019-12-17

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[01:09:45] <buildmaster> i486/libva-intel-driver is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org
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[05:38:43] <buildmaster> pentium4/parity-ethereum is broken (says eurobuild6-2): https://archlinux32.org
[05:44:19] <buildmaster> i686/parity-ethereum is broken (says nlopc46): https://archlinux32.org
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[08:13:38] <buildmaster> Hi deep42thought!
[08:13:38] <buildmaster> !rq deep42thought
[08:13:39] <phrik> buildmaster: <deep42thought> I like to move it, move it; I like to move it, move it
[08:13:48] <deep42thought> Hi eschwartz, I'm online now
[08:13:57] <deep42thought> ^tautology of the day
[08:14:15] <eschwartz> did you get my memoserv?
[08:14:20] <deep42thought> yes
[08:14:21] <deep42thought> thanks!
[08:17:38] <deep42thought> I'll move it
[08:17:49] <deep42thought> let's see, what gets broken ;-)
[08:31:47] <nit-picker> key 2FF1E976D6EB2E954A87DC14443904EC9EC51A8A (from Roelf Wichertjes (archlinux32 master key) <contact@roelf.org>) in package archlinux32-keyring-20191103-1.0-any.pkg.tar.xz expires on 2019-11-13 (in -33 < 100 days).
[08:35:42] <elibrokeit> deep42thought: no problem :)
[08:35:51] <elibrokeit> Shadow is weird!
[08:35:59] <deep42thought> yeah
[08:43:52] <deep42thought> soalokin: You were right: the "i686" iso can install both pentium4 and i686. It will automatically install the right thing without any changes needed. The dual-boot iso can boot the archlinux32 live disk or alternatively the upstream archlinux live disk - in case you want to use it on an either 64- or 32-bit installation.
[09:30:26] <deep42thought> eschwartz: there are still a few suid binaries in shadow - but they match the ones from my x86_64 installation, so I assume that's fine :-)
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[10:12:34] <buildmaster> !rq buildmaster
[10:12:35] <phrik> buildmaster: <buildmaster> I might be insane, but never confused ... ;-)
[10:18:15] <buildmaster> i486/sarg is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org
[10:29:04] <buildmaster> i486/openvas are broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0) - already flagged out-of-date upstream on 2019-10-14: https://archlinux32.org
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[11:13:36] <buildmaster> i686/texmacs are broken (says eurobuild6-6): https://archlinux32.org
[11:17:08] <buildmaster> i486/giac is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org
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[11:19:26] <buildmaster> pentium4/texmacs are broken (says eurobuild6-5): https://archlinux32.org
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[11:39:03] <buildmaster> i486/aarch64-linux-gnu-gcc is broken (says eurobuild6-7-i486): https://archlinux32.org
[11:44:15] <KitsuWhooa> Is webkit2gtk supposed to still work without SSE2?
[11:44:51] <deep42thought> at least, we have a patch in the repos to remove sse2
[11:45:10] <KitsuWhooa> Yeah, I saw, but I'm getting sigill
[11:45:25] <deep42thought> can you open a bug, please
[11:45:51] <KitsuWhooa> I do not have a bug tracker account, and I'll try lookg into it myself first
[11:45:56] <KitsuWhooa> assuming I can find the resources to compile it
[11:46:23] <deep42thought> bug tracker accounts are now handled less restrictive - you can simply register and report bugs right away, now
[11:46:55] <KitsuWhooa> ah, fair enough
[12:31:00] <buildmaster> i486/libvdpau-va-gl is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org
[12:44:54] <buildmaster> i486/cairomm is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs1): https://archlinux32.org
[12:59:30] <buildmaster> i486/libmfx is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs1): https://archlinux32.org
[13:18:45] <buildmaster> i486/neovim is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs0): https://archlinux32.org
[13:22:27] <buildmaster> i486/emscripten is broken (says eurobuild6-7-i486): https://archlinux32.org
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[13:50:53] <elibrokeit> deep42thought: yeah, e.g. passwd needs to be suid so it can change your own password in /etc/shadow :D
[13:51:06] <deep42thought> yeah, I thought so, too
[13:51:16] <deep42thought> I was just a little confused, becaus su is not suid
[13:51:26] <deep42thought> but I guessed, it had some other capability set
[13:51:31] <deep42thought> which is not exposed by a `ls -l`
[13:51:42] <elibrokeit> The problem is when useradd is setuid too... Then you can create new accounts which is broken
[13:52:38] <deep42thought> so: useradd does not check if it is called by root or just got root privilege due to suid - right?
[13:53:44] <elibrokeit> Well, no, the problem is it uses pam
[13:54:02] <elibrokeit> But the Pam config allows anyone who knows their own password...
[13:54:24] <deep42thought> ah, ok
[13:54:27] <elibrokeit> You can use Pam to say only root is ok
[13:54:46] <deep42thought> but shouldn't *that* be the solution, then?
[13:55:02] <elibrokeit> But that would require having a different Pam config for useradd than the stock one used for e.g. also passwd
[13:55:40] <elibrokeit> And the real question is why would you ever want it to be setuid and then re-close that hole with Pam?
[13:55:57] <deep42thought> ok, right
[13:56:24] <deep42thought> one could employ both strategies in parallel, though
[14:10:12] <bill-auger> deep42thought: i just checked webkit2gtk i686 with epiphany - it is working fine on parabola
[14:10:37] <deep42thought> bill-auger: the question is, if it works fine on a non-sse2-capable system, too
[14:11:22] <bill-auger> ok maybe i read that wrong
[14:16:50] <buildmaster> i486/kresus are broken (says nlopc46-i486bs1): https://archlinux32.org
[14:17:52] <bill-auger> you guys dont package blender?
[14:18:35] <deep42thought> blacklisted due to unavailable cuda
[14:18:47] <deep42thought> (and on i486 also: rust)
[14:18:47] <bill-auger> i tried upgrading it yesterday but it has a new dependency 'openimagedenoise' - that is not in arch32 or archarm
[14:19:32] <deep42thought> probably still stuck on the build-list
[14:19:34] <deep42thought> let me check
[14:19:52] <bill-auger> cuda support can be compiled out - thats the only reason parabola re-builds it
[14:20:16] <deep42thought> do you have a patch for the PKGBUILD?
[14:20:20] <deep42thought> I'm happy to apply it
[14:20:32] <bill-auger> https://git.parabola.nu
[14:20:34] <phrik> Title: PKGBUILD\blender\libre - abslibre.git - Libre Packages Build Scripts for the Parabola GNU/Linux-libre (Arch Build System Libre) (at git.parabola.nu)
[14:20:47] <deep42thought> https://archlinux32.org
[14:20:49] <deep42thought> fails in build()
[14:20:50] <bill-auger> its just two cmake flags IIRC
[14:26:59] <bill-auger> oh i should have pointed that link a level up - there is also a patch to allow non-SSE2 builds
[14:27:09] <deep42thought> np, I saw it
[14:28:49] <bill-auger> archarm has the same version but with the new 'openimagedenoise' deps - there is an additional flag set though
[14:28:49] <bill-auger> -DWITH_RAYOPTIMIZATION=OFF \
[14:29:22] <deep42thought> openimagedenoise fails to build currently
[14:29:23] <bill-auger> without 'openimagedenoise' (i clearly meant)
[14:29:28] <deep42thought> (have not checked, what the issue is)
[14:29:52] <bill-auger> i think that -DWITH_RAYOPTIMIZATION=OFF may be allowing it to build without that lib
[14:30:56] <deep42thought> CMake Error at mkl-dnn/CMakeLists.txt:59 (message):
[14:30:56] <deep42thought> Intel(R) MKL-DNN supports 64 bit platforms only
[14:30:59] <deep42thought> hmmm
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[14:33:12] <bill-auger> ill give it a spin
[14:33:29] * deep42thought feels lucky, I'll push it to the slaves >:-)
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[14:50:18] <bill-auger> i did not add -DWITH_RAYOPTIMIZATION=OFF and it passed the configure stage anyways - so thats maybe not related
[15:01:26] <buildmaster> i486/opendht is broken (says nlopc46-i486bs1): https://archlinux32.org
[15:27:36] <buildmaster> girls, please have a look at my dirty database
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[16:09:41] <buildmaster> i486/postgresql is broken (says eurobuild6-7-i486): https://archlinux32.org
[16:28:40] <bill-auger> blender is good for i686 - just omit 'openimagedenoise' and add the two CUDA off switches
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[17:43:09] <buildmaster> any/riot is broken (says eurobuild6-6): https://archlinux32.org
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[17:48:51] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[17:48:51] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[17:48:53] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> you should start every morning with a *-zen practice.. ;-)
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[18:02:24] <rhqq> greetings. in the download section there are links to i686 and to dual bootable arch images. what are dual ones? both 32 and 64bit like old days or something different?
[18:03:31] <buildmaster> i686/gambas3 is broken (says eurobuild6-5): https://archlinux32.org
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[18:13:03] <buildmaster> Hi abaumann!
[18:13:03] <buildmaster> !rq abaumann
[18:13:05] <phrik> buildmaster: <abaumann> does it include a dependency to a mailer, so it can send emails about temperature and usage too? ;-)
[18:13:31] <abaumann> rhqq: those isos are exactly the dual isos from older times, convenience isos to boot both 32-bit and 64-bit Arch
[18:18:15] <rhqq> i see, cool, thank you
[18:18:20] <abaumann> np
[18:18:33] <rhqq> how do i set the archi? in pacman.conf?
[18:18:40] <rhqq> i couldnt find this documented
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[18:22:20] <abaumann> Architecture=pentium4 or Architecture=i686 (i486).
[18:22:35] <abaumann> But pacman detects the architecture automatically if you leave it to 'auto'
[18:22:40] <abaumann> based on the SSE2 flag
[18:22:46] <abaumann> in /proc/cpuinfo
[18:22:56] <rhqq> ok, so i just install it like normal arch?
[18:23:02] <abaumann> yes.
[18:23:06] <rhqq> awesome, thanks
[18:23:17] <abaumann> there are some issues around mkfs (forcing the 32-bit version) maybe
[18:23:34] * abaumann searches for an old forum page..
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[18:26:04] <abaumann> mkfs.ext4 -O ^64bit /dev/sdax
[18:27:41] <rhqq> i see, thank you
[18:34:26] <abaumann> ui, is kernel 5.4.2 eating more memory? I just lost 64 MB on a 128MB machine
[18:34:43] <abaumann> 64MB may not be much on nowadays machines, but on old machines they render them unusable
[18:36:07] <abaumann> well, tomorrow. :-)
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[19:22:41] <buildmaster> pentium4/gambas3 is broken (says rechenknecht): https://archlinux32.org
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[22:10:12] <buildmaster> i686/osquery is broken (says eurobuild6-4): https://archlinux32.org
[22:13:19] <buildmaster> pentium4/osquery is broken (says eurobuild6-3): https://archlinux32.org
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